Ohio OVI

In Ohio the DUI offense is called OVI, for operating a vehicle under the influence.

The Ohio version of the Fair DUI flyer should perhaps be called the Fair OVI flyer, and it’s below.

You should discuss this with a local lawyer before using it.

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54 replies on “Ohio OVI”

  1. Is there one of these for (DWABD) Driving While Black After Dark. I tell you, if you are a black person of any sex or age. Your guilty simply cause you was stopped. The charge is anything they say. The reason for the charge? Black. That’s it. No more, no less, just (Black). We are suppose to trust these people with our lives.
    I don’t trust them day or night. And never with my life. That belongs to my Lord Jesus.

  2. Driving while black? Get over it. There is always a reason the cops stop someone. They cannot stop you for no reason. Drive better. Stop laying in the seat like some wanna be thug. Grow up don’t victimize yourselves.

  3. Mike, there is no such law. If you are stopped for a law enforcement purpose you are supposed to inform the officer that you have a CHL and that you are currently carrying (only if you are actually currently carrying). Because of that, I would add a line on the flyer to that affect (which I will be doing). There is still no reason to roll down your window.

  4. put it in a ziplock bag tied to a string and roll your window up so the bag is outside the car and lock your doors

  5. fairdui, you should start a page organized by state, where folks who have actually TRIED this scheme can report back their results.

    Here in OH, we have lots of really macho cops, and unfortunately, if they have been on force for any length of time, they fit the old saying “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

    I suspect that ANYONE who tried this scheme in OH would almost immediately have their window smashed in, be pulled out on the ground, kicked, handcuffed, and hauled off to jail without a second thought.

    It is a shame we in Ohio cannot exercise our rights this way, but this seems to be the way of the future.

  6. huh? You totally missed his point. Of course he knows there are state pages – You of all folks should know that since you replied to him earlier on THIS STATE page, and he wrote on this STATE page.

    If you are part of fairdui as you appear, please reread his post.

    You will see he is suggesting a place for folks to report results of using a fairdui bag – not intermingled in with 1000 other questions. Let me try to make it clearer for you since I agree with him: a place to write ONLY results after a stop using fairdui idea.

    Got it?

  7. Unfortunately I don’t get it. I think you can post comments on the state pages. You can also post to the Fair DUI page on Facebook.

    We would love it if people would report results to us, especially with video. But I don’t see how to set up the website to make that easier. Suggestions welcome.

  8. Joe jack that’s not true, there is not always a reason cops stop someone. Hawk, if you learn how to talk to cops and don’t do anything wrong that’s not true either. Cops are over militarized, power hungry and often are racist. I think the racism and the abuse of power are separate issues but when they overlap it’s extra messed up. Because of this everyone needs to educate themselves on how to talk to police and record every encounter you have with police, especially if you aren’t white.

  9. He’s saying you need 2 pages for ech state, one for people to ask questions and 1 for people to share results

  10. joejack: You must live a sheltered life. Sheriff, Highway Patrol, and local police can all stop you for no reason by simply having a ‘made up’ reason as probable cause. This can be for actual nonsense like no ‘license plate light,’ ‘lane violation (wheel on either painted line),’ lane change without signaling, turning without signaling, or if none of that happens, for made up stuff such as mis-reading your plate, mis-reading their ‘plate reader’ display, observing you using your phone where its prohibited (when you are not), observing you without seatbelt (when you have it on), … the list goes on and on. “Just pull him over, we’ll come up with a reason if we need one.” After the stop, it can escalate from there – people have been shot http://www.wbtw.com/story/24833263/70-year-old-man-reaching-for-cane-is-shot-during-sc-traffic-stop and http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/justice/south-carolina-trooper-shooting/ people have been killed during traffic stops http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Walter_Scott

    Go ahead and live in a fantasy world, or open your eyes and see reality. Your Choice.

  11. I know with Joomla you could drop in a comment module just for results, and place it anywhere on the page. I believe the same is possible with wordpress.

  12. In the ohio conceal carry class they teach you that the officer has the right to hold your weapon during the traffic stop if they want to, so you would have to open the window. Not sure if that is actually the laws requirements but that’s what they told us.

  13. lol wow dude you’re right, racism doesn’t exist in America. It is just a myth created by black people because they wanted people to feel sorry for them. Seriously how dare a black person think that the people that kidnapped them and sold them as farm machinery, had something against them. You’re seriously a moron of the highest caliber.

  14. james, who alive today bought and sold a black person? How the he11 do you justify blaming anyone alive today for past stuff? sounds like YOU are the racist mr black. get over it. Get with the ’80’s man!

  15. You were sold by black people, so who should you be upset with? Same with youth violence, black on black, but all I see are fingers being pointed at whites, shame on you!

  16. I fully support this, but the refusal to sign based on traffic rule 3(e)(f)… what about ORC 2935.26 A(3)?

  17. I find that the older cops are more relaxed than the younger cops. I was busted for being high had a bowl and weed and the older cops was going to call my family to come get me and have someone come get my car with no charges till his young dick apprentice started making a fuss.

  18. WARNING !! This site is potentially dangerous and misleading. Jonathan July 3, 2015 is correct. Ex. the sign for Ohio is ALL wrong with current laws, Aug 2015. Read O.R.C again, carefully. You DO have to sign a citation for a minor misdemeanor. And you DEFINITELY “shall display the operator’s driver’s license, or furnish satisfactory proof that the operator has a driver’s license” per ORC 4507.35. You can simple avoid the stop in the first place, NO U-turns or other illegal actions. https://www.ohiobar.org/ForPublic/Resources/LawYouCanUse/Pages/LawYouCanUse-582.aspx

  19. Yes, the Fair DUI method is potentially dangerous. So is any other method. We haven’t seen a better approach yet.

  20. ORC 2935.26 A(3) is a bit confusing. In a traffic stop in Ohio a few years back (and before this web-site was born) I refused to sign the ticket. The officer threaten to arrest me. I said I would sign it under threat, duress and coercion. That frustrated the officer and he left me with the ticket unsigned with the following childish words, “Im’ gonna tell the judge what you said.”

    I got my ticket dismissed. I went through 3 magistrates that couldn’t seem to establish jurisdiction; pissed off two assistant prosecuting attorneys. I used the process I well researched at ticketslayer.com.

    It seems to me jurisdiction is assumed on both sides of the window. The supreme court recently said that to remain silent without pleading the 5th AND asking for an attorney seems to be the law of the land now. Hardly constitutional.

    I don’t claim to understand the legalism and most of those on the inside of the window certainly don’t get the jurisdiction or legalism. Really the officer doesn’t either. He’s only a trained processor not an attorney. However, it would seem that if one really wanted to frustrate the system one might say at the very least. “I have no idea what’s going on here I need to speak to an attorney.”

    Of course that’s what this flyer says in so many words. It might be one of those things if some officer is dumb enough to arrest then to have the ambiguity of law challenged whereby there is no law requiring signatures for traffic tickets but somehow tied into general misdemeanors. It seems that traffic tickets fall under minor misdemeanor (5th degree) and misdemeanor (4th degree to 1st degree).

    Minor traffic offenses are full of legal ambiguity being neither or part civil; being neither or part criminal; being quasi-civil and criminal.

    There is always a risk when standing up against the police state. Blind compliance solidifies mischief continuing. Challenging mischief has sometimes caused changes in law and administration of law’ a few officers to quit there job, because they came to realized the were often enforcing no real law and were just revenue collectors.

  21. I really think we need a concealed carry version. Showing your CHL is not enough. All that does is notify the officer that you have a license, not that you are also armed. That does *not* fulfill ORC 2923.12(B)(1), which says you need to inform him of both facts, not just the fact you are licensed:

    (B) No person who has been issued a concealed handgun license shall do any of the following:

    (1) If the person is stopped for a law enforcement purpose and is carrying a concealed handgun, fail to promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the person after the person has been stopped that the person has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the person then is carrying a concealed handgun;

    Also, cops in Ohio have been known to arrest people if they don’t say within seconds that they are armed. There was an infamous case in Canton for that caught on video, can probably find it on YouTube.

  22. Assuming a certain race is all racist, like your comment says, shows that your racist. It’s not the 1800’s anymore, in fact at least 90% of white peoples lineages can’t be traced back to slave owners. Yet you group us all together… when you go to Europe do you feel the white people there are racist towards black people too? The truth is the racist ones are a very small minority of the population and when you see as all one big thing, well, your a moron. Of course it exists, but it’s played out to be much worse than it is.

  23. I have a lot of Indian and Irish ancestors who, if they could, would tell you that it’s time to leave the slavery comments in the past, where they belong. Nearly every ethnic group in the world has ancestors who were victims of slavery and genocide. Stop beating a dead, black horse!!!

  24. Stupid question but how do I get the flyer? Just print out? Does it work for all traffic stops?

  25. Yes! I agree and I’m white, sadly what you say is way too true and so f u c Ed up. I have seen all races all colors, all sex’s, and the worst is being an​ African American woman, Before I felt a little wavy on the boat with the police and now I feel like I’m all the way in the water! So not only do I have to worry about crazy people, robbery, Murderers and kidnapping now I have to worry about the *’good’guys’* too!? What’s happened for the Constitution this country was founded on/for not to mean anything for the police to abide by it, this ‘ I have a badge and can do what ever I like unless you repeat said laws to prove you know them’ will end in Marshall law and death……. I fear for ALL our lives in the hands of our so called heroes/ protecters. God bless America land of (?)

  26. INFO/Education. If your going to site history and blame the white man for kidnapping them , then get on the right side of history. It was a group of black men called slave traders that gathered the black men up and sold them to white slave traders for a profit. It was the black man who turned on his own kind. I think what the people of this country did to the black race is disscusting, But this is 2017. You are not a slave and either were your parents. This country has come a long way with race but have still a long way to go. what we all should be more concerned with is how this country has taken our Constitutional rights away for mere privlages. They have found a new way of enslavement and it has nothing to do with race or sexes. It has to do with economics. They keep us down like cattle. And if your not on the right side of the mighty dollar. Then you are a second class citizen. We all need to look past race and see the true color of the crimes being perpetrated against the people of America. That’s what they want is to divide to conquer. Oh and if it matters I’m trans racial.

  27. Just because of the way a person drives should not be the reason the get pulled over…it is not illegal to drive in any specific position…turn your skin black and see how you end up…dont think for yourself think of the people/me and put yourself in their/my position…and a DWB is real but you wouldn’t know either because you are not of African/Black/ or of colored skinned…and will never be but when the day that you are pulled over or detained for no good reason, you my fellow citizen…if a citizen of the U.S. will undèrstand so clearly that you yourself will apoligize…

  28. You have no idea what it is to live with dark skin…so don’t say anything till you do…shame on you for not knowing the world that you live in

  29. It doesn’t matter if any white person today 2017 has sold any person of colour just as the white folks judge every black person on the basic of another black person… so do we to almost every white person especially cops… the mind.. the down trail… the teaching is still installed in the mind and you learned from someone as I did…the only difference is I learned to be in compliance of the police…and white floks…where you learned that that is just how “they are”(black people)…

  30. So that’s what DWI means, Driving While Irish…all this time I thought it was something else.

  31. Traffic Rule (3)(F)(1) is for electronic tickets only. “Local rules adopted by a court pursuant to the Supreme Court Rules of Superintendence for the Courts of Ohio may provide for the use of a ticket that is produced by
    computer or other electronic means. A ticket produced by computer or other electronic means
    shall not require the signature of the defendant.”

    An OVI Checkpoint is a “traffic stop” so if your cops are using electronic traffic tickets no signature is required. If they’re still using paper tickets or if the stop produces evidence of a MM and they write a paper ticket, then you’ll have to sign it or risk arrest.

  32. It’s really pretty simple. When a cop hands you a ticket to sign, go ahead and sign it, but write the letters TDC next to your name, small enough not be noticed. TDC means threat, duress, and coercion. Understand that if ANYONE wants you sign ANYTHING, it’s got to be done knowingly, intelligently & voluntarily. Failure on any point invalidates the signature. This applies to contracts/agreements, waivers of rights, etc.

  33. In Ohio, if you refuse to submit to a BAC test or breathalizer, your driver’s license is AUTOMATICALLY SUSPENDED for ONE YEAR even if you are found to be NOT GUILTY at any subsequent court hearings. Your license is immediately confiscated upon arrest and you are not allowed to drive any vehicle. This is a CIVIL and NOT a CRIMINAL proceeding. Your case is not even handled by the BMV. The cost to have your license re-instated is more than $500.00. You also incur towing fees, fees to get your vehicle out of impound, court costs, attorney fees, transportation costs, possible jail time, numerous court appearances, etc., ALL WHILE BEING COMPLETELY INNOCENT! This has to change and is one of the biggest and most corrupt MONEY-GRABBING SCHEME ever concocted by abusive lawmakers! (Thank you, MADD!!!)
    This is something that I wish someone would work on to get changed.

  34. Sorry for using you post to reply to the comment abobe you she could handle a reply back i guess, but to thomasina venable
    No i dont know what its like to have colored skin but i do how a white boy grows up in the same projects ,in the same poverty , do you kbow what its like to have white skin and be instantly considered privileged and when i was raised in the same neighborhoods and got harassed by the same cops , so its not a skin color thing its a poverty, community u come from

  35. Sorry for using you post to reply to the comment abobe you she could handle a reply back i guess, but to thomasina venable
    No i dont know what its like to have colored skin but i do how a white boy grows up in the same projects ,in the same poverty , do you kbow what its like to have white skin and be instantly considered privileged and when i was raised in the same neighborhoods and got harassed by the same cops , so its not a skin color thing its a poverty, community u come from

  36. Slaves were rarely kidnapped rather sold to traders by tribes who had taken them in war as prisoners for the sole purpose of selling them. Try reading a little before sounding like the lame stream media or any other ding dong with little knowledge and a platform to preach from.

  37. It’s a little tricky with a CHL. Ya see, in Ohio an officer can lawfully command you to step out of the vehicle for “officer saftey” if he/she has reasonable, articulable suspicion that you have a weapon within arms reach. For example, if he sees a buldge in your waistline, or notices something sticking up from between your seats etc.. Showing your CHL on the paper with no verbal communication of it’s location could be enough for the officer to lawfully command you to step out of the vehicle.

    While carrying I would personally make a verbal statement of having a license to carry and explain where the weapon is located while keeping my hands in plain view (without motioning or pointing to the weapons location, as not to have your movement mistaken as reaching for said weapon), speaking loudly and clearly enough this can still be accomplished with the window rolled up or slightly cracked.

    After that remain silent and continue to enforce all of your rights. If the officer still lawfully commands you to step out of the vehicle (which is very likely because some police officers have huge egos and will retaliate against you for standing on your rights), immediately revoke consent to a search of your person or property. The officer will still lawfully be able to pat you down via the terry stop, but won’t be able to legally go inside your pockets unless he feels something inside them during the pat down that could reasonably be confused for a weapon.

    After the pat down ask if you’re being detained or if you’re free to go, you want to make it clear that this is not a voluntary encounter on your part. From here on out remain silent, unless you are stating that you don’t consent to searches and asking if you are free to leave.

    Leave ALL other discussions to your attorney, any wrongdoing by the police can’t be solved on the side of the road, and any request by them or attempt by you to explain yourself, should be done in a courtroom with adequate legal counsel.

  38. Why is it called OVI flyer? I dont operate under the influence? Are they going to assume I’m under the influence? Can I crack my window to hand them the info and sign the ticket cause I dont want arrested for not signing. Do I have to use this flyer or can I make changes?

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